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[Note: A report is pending on what happened in the auditorium during the Jeffco BOE meeting at Bear Creek High School on May 1, 2015.]
(Donna) = Donna Jack
(Dee) = Dee
This gives a report of the May 1, 2014 Jefferson County Colorado Public School district School Board meeting at Bear Creek High School. Dee explains how she was unable to get to the doors of the school auditorium because of the crowd in the hallway blocking the doorways. The crowd was made up of teachers and other union members, and it was also made up of others who came to create an intimidating, dangerous mob scene. People were questioned as they arrived outside, and if they had certain qualifications, they were directed to a pre-designated area inside the school, to rally and get revved up before the meeting. All these people wore “For the Kids” buttons.
Where was law enforcement before and during the meeting? Read Dee’s testimony to find out.
A transcript and audio of an interview Donna Jack did with Dee on May 16, 2014 follows:
(Donna) Today is May 16, 2014, and Dee is going to call me back right now and give her report on one of the school meetings that she was not able to get in to because of the crowd outside because of all the teachers and what they were doing. So she will be calling in just a minute.
(Donna) Hello there.
(Dee) Hello. Are you testing, testing?
(Donna) Yep. I’m testing, testing, and I’ve got the recorder on, and the little red light is solid, so go for it and explain when you went to this school board meeting and the whole thing about it.
(Dee) OK. This is at Bear Creek High School. I walked in. There’s a lot of yelling –people with buttons on. And someone asked me, where was my button, and I said, “I’m not a member of any teacher’s union.” And they had it blocked off where the doorways were blocked. I saw firemen, but I didn’t see any police. There was a Channel 31 guy up at the end of the hallway where I walked down to find out if I could get in that way. And later on I found out there were seats – a couple of seats in the auditorium, but how was I to know, because I couldn’t get to the doorway. They had it blocked.
(Donna) Who blocked it?
(Dee) The teachers’ union people were blocking. Everybody with buttons. They had it corded off. And I was asking somebody about it, and they said, “Well, aren’t you for the kids?” And I said, “Well yes, but I find the teachers’ union is more for themselves and their paycheck. I’m for the education of kids. And when you say, ‘It’s all about the kids’, that’s not what I see illustrated.”
Anyway, [a person from the] teachers’ union came over and asked me to stop talking with that person. I said, “We were having a discussion,” and he said, “Well I don’t want you harassing or bullying them.” And I said, “Quite frankly what I see here is bullying of anybody who isn’t wearing a button.” But then he waved his arms and they started yelling louder and louder, and so all you could hear was them.
I decided there was no way to get in because they weren’t going to let me. And so I was leaving, and as I walked out there were two young teachers who followed, and they said, “You’re just a bitter old woman,” and I said, “That right there is hate speech. And that right there tells me that’s where these kids are learning hate speech, bullying – all these kinds of tactics are from you. I’m here. I’m interested in what’s happening in the schools. I’m interested in both sides of the story, but all I hear is your ranting and your raving, and seeing your buttons. And if you aren’t a button-wearer, then you [are] harassed, and [you] bully people away.” And I said, “That is no model for kids – for children. And I’m very very concerned.”
(Donna) So, I have a question. That means, if I had come later, like you, the unions would not have let me into the auditorium.
(Donna) Because they did not let you in. These are union people that kept you out.
(Donna) Well that’s interesting.
(Dee) There was no way. And they had it — It was like — they had these orange cones, and I could walk down the middle of it, but thinking I would find another doorway, but it was all blocked. And this union guy said that, “All the seats are taken.” I found out for a fact they weren’t. There were seats in there. But how was I to know, and I didn’t – oh and the other thing this union guy said, “If you keep this discussion up I’ll have you arrested.” I said, “For what?” [he said] “For bullying.” And I said, “We were having a discussion.” So in other words, if you are telling your side of the story, they don’t’ want to hear it, and they’ll have you arrested for it. Now that’s bullying.
That is bullying, because they did not want to hear me. They don’t want to listen. And can you imagine what a child – when they meet up with a teacher like that — every day? Pretty soon, either they leave the schools, or they check out mentally. You know, they just aren’t listening any more. But that – they are using bullying tactics. That’s verbal abuse.
(Donna) It is. Now we had on the inside – in the auditorium – they would not let us go out because they said it was not safe. So you’re saying that the teachers and the union thugs were in the hallways outside the door of the auditorium.
(Donna) We every once in a while we were hearing screaming in there. So that was them in the hallways screaming.
(Dee) Yes. They were loud. After I…this guy he had a name tag with like a gold plaque on his nametag, and he came over and he said, “Now you keep this up and I’ll have you arrested.” And I’m going, “What! For what? Disagreeing with you guys?”
(Donna) Well now from the inside, not only did they say they would not let us leave the auditorium because it wasn’t safe — my friend needed to go to the bathroom really bad. We had been there for hours.
(Dee) They should be – That’s the thing I thought, well don’t people leave? It shouldn’t be like a police state. I felt like I was in a police state.
(Donna) They told her she could not go to the bathroom, and I was not going to take that for an answer because when your bladder has to go, you have to go. And so, I was not backing down. And there was a lady there that saw me. She came over. It turned out she was the assistant principal at that school, and she took Delores back stage to go to a tiny bathroom back there. And behind the curtain there were 12 to 15 armed policemen ready. [Note: in the audio I mistakenly said 20 or 30.]
(Dee) Now that’s what – you know I saw cop cars everywhere, but I didn’t see the cops. I wondered where they were.
(Donna) They were hiding behind the curtains.
(Dee) What were they expecting?
(Donna) We should not be ever meeting there. Now they were expecting violence. They were expecting it.
(Dee) Well I’ll tell you what, who’s going to do the violence are those teachers. They were – the reason why I left is that guy had a look in his eye I didn’t like. And I thought he was spoiling for a fight. And I left, and even when I left, those two people followed me and said, “You’re a bitter old woman.” And that’s when I said, “That is hate speech.”
Well the thing that got me was, I thought, “How are kids going to deal with the teacher when they use these words. I mean, when I looked at him I said, “That’s hate speech, ‘you old bitter woman’.” Because I came? Because I’m older? Because I disagree with the teachers’ union?
[ADDED STATEMENT BY DEE THE SAME DAY]
The main feeling I had the whole time I was there, I felt like a victim without a policeman or sheriff there to help protect me from these union people who were so vocal and aggressive in their whole manner. I had no recourse. I had no person there to protect me; and their whole manner was so – I can’t imagine a child being faced with that sort of aggressiveness. If you don’t’ go their way, or think their way, they will – they will get you.